There will be a C++ and Beyond in 2012!
It will probably be in early August, but keep reading.
To be honest, the fact that there will be an all-new C&B next year should be news of the “Well, duh” variety, because Herb and Andrei and I have all made clear that we’d like to do another one. Because we’re in charge, you’d think that’d settle the matter. Unfortunately, things aren’t so simple. We each keep busy schedules with obligations booked months in advance, so trying to find dates when we’re all available was a challenge. Also, Andrei and Herb have day jobs at technology juggernauts, so they had to coordinate things with their corporate masters. And we have survey data from past C&B attendees regarding the best time of year to hold the event, so we wanted to do something consistent with that. Just last night, we agreed that a suitable time would be the first half of August, ideally either August 5-8 or 12-15, but, again, keep reading.
It’s nice that the three of us have found common scheduling ground, but it’s kind of important to make sure that the venue hosting the event has availability, too. That means we need to know where we’ll be holding C&B 2012, and we don’t yet. We have decided that we won’t hold it in either of our previous locations. We had a wonderful time at both of them, but the meeting space at The Salish (site of C&B 2010) isn’t large enough, and the Banff Springs Hotel (site of C&B 2011) isn’t inside the USA, which our survey data revealed to be an issue for some people.
You can help us figure out where to hold it. Our current thinking is to host C&B 2012 somewhere in the eastern part of the United States. Practically speaking, we’re looking for a venue similar to The Salish and The BSH: hotel with good meeting support, four-starish amenities, outdoorsey location with nearby hiking opportunities, not too far from a reasonable airport. Bonus points if there are likely to be fireflies present during the event, because (1) I like fireflies, (2) they don’t exist where I live (near Portland, Oregon, and my entomology friend tells me that we actually do have fireflies here, they simply don’t glow, but, please, like that counts…), and (3) it’s my turn to choose where to hold C&B. (Herb chose in 2010, and Andrei chose last year.) If you have a hotel suggestion you think we should look into, let us know. If you can do a cursory check to see if they have a room that can seat at least 300 people classroom-style, that would be helpful, because that’s the kind of room we need. Not because we plan to host 300 people. We don’t. We need a room of that size because (1) we set up our seating at 2/3rds the listed capacity so that you won’t be elbow-to-elbow with your neighbors during the technical sessions and (2) we got spoiled by the rear-projection display system we used in Banff, and that means we’d like a bunch of empty space behind the screen to allow for rear-projection capability. (For those of you who attended last year, the listed capacity for the room we were in is 300.)
Once we have a venue, we’ll post here with specific dates and details, but we’re not likely to have that information for a while. It takes time to find candidate locations, investigate them, haggle over terms and conditions, and finally sign a contract. In the meantime, please hold the first half of next August for C&B 2012, which we’re already plotting to make sure will be the best C&B ever.
Scott
November 2, 2011 at 8:55 pm
How about this?
ATLANTIC OCEANSIDE HOTEL & CONFERENCE CENTER
Tel: (800) 336-2463 or (207) 288-5801
119 Eden Street, Bar Harbor, Maine 04609
[email protected]
http://www.barharbormainehotel.com
November 8, 2011 at 4:12 am
I’ll vote for Bar Harbor! Great suggestion!
November 2, 2011 at 9:00 pm
Looks like a reasonable candidate. Thanks for the suggestion!
Scott
November 3, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Mohonk Mountain House , located about an hour North of New York City, in the beautiful ‘Gunks.
November 3, 2011 at 7:04 pm
Hmmm, from http://www.mohonk.com/meetings/meeting_room_capacities.cfm, it doesn’t look like Mohonk Mountain House has a room big enough for us. We need a listed classroom-style capacity of at least 300.
Scott
November 4, 2011 at 9:09 am
How about Nemacolin Woodlands:
http://www.nemacolin.com/meetings-and-social/corporate
They only have a 200 seat lecture hall, which may not be large enough, but they do have a few larger ballrooms, I think.
Some area perks include great hiking, white-water rafting, and Falling Water.
November 4, 2011 at 11:15 am
@Josh: Thanks for the suggestion of Nemacolin Woodlands. We’ll check it out.
Scott
November 6, 2011 at 3:03 am
Grove Park Inn, Asheville, NC: http://groveparkinnmeetings.com/
They have classroom style room capacities of 1,000 people and 400 people.
Asheville is an awesome town, and you’re in the mountains with all kinds of attractions (white water rafting, hiking, caverns, etc). Asheville has a decent sized airport that’s 20 minutes from Grove Park Inn (airlines serving it are AirTran Airways, Continental Airlines, Delta Air Lines, United Express and US Airways). There’s non-stop service to Asheville from:
* Atlanta, GA
* Charlotte, NC
* Chicago, IL
* Detroit, MI
* Houston, TX
* New York, NY
* Newark, NJ
* Philadelphia, PA
* Orlando, FL
November 6, 2011 at 3:10 am
One thing you could consider. You tend to hold C&B at the same time as SIGGRAPH, or very close to it. SIGGRAPH 2012 is Aug. 5 - 9 in Los Angeles.
November 6, 2011 at 4:47 pm
@Jamie: Grove Park Inn is a great suggestion, thanks. Asheville has been on my list of places to visit for a long time! As for SIGGRAPH, we’ll do our best to avoid conflicting with it.
Scott
November 8, 2011 at 6:12 am
Wow! I’m creating a file for all of the great suggestions - keep ‘em coming.
November 9, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Neither one of these is close to a major airport, but they look nice!
The Homestead http://www.thehomestead.com
The Greenbrier http://www.thegreenbrier.com
November 10, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Pittsburgh, PA
David H. Lawrence Convention Center or any of the hotels in the area
http://www.pittsburghcc.com
Major Airport 20mins away
Great outdoors scene for hiking (you can even kayak to Downtown Pittsburgh)
November 15, 2011 at 9:13 am
Grove Park Inn, Ashville NC, not that i’m biased to North Carolina…
Ashville is close for excellent shopping and dining and the Blue Rdige Parkway is available for sight seeing etc.
http://www.groveparkinn.com/Leisure/
November 16, 2011 at 11:29 am
It’s simple.
Raleigh, NC - The Sheraton in downtown would be perfect!
November 16, 2011 at 3:27 pm
Thanks to everybody for helping us with the venue research. We’re already contacting places and gathering detailed information, but keep those suggestions coming!
Scott
November 23, 2011 at 4:33 am
Hi,
I would be very interested in participating if you come to europe. Please inform me if that happens. Then I will try to attend.
Best Regards
Tomas Hammar
December 2, 2011 at 8:08 am
The Elms Resort and Spa
Excelsior Springs, Missouri
This is about 45 minutes from Kansas City International Airport. Nice and centrally located.
http://elmsresort.com/
December 7, 2011 at 11:22 pm
Have you considered the Park City area in Utah? 30m from airport (Delta Hub). Cool in summer with lots of hiking, biking opportunities. (disclaimer I live in Salt Lake …)
Park City has lots of venues which would support 300+ people (eg Sundance film festival). A little more quiet but in the area is Midway or the Sundance resort. (beautiful but maybe a bit small - http://sundanceresort.com/ in Provo Canyon)
or the Zermatt resort in Midway (http://zermattresort.com/resort/history/)
December 9, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Oh - and I forget to mention that there are fire-flies in Park City. I’ve seen them myself along a creek in a conservation easement near town and apparently they are seen in other Utah locations.
(see http://www.burger.com/ffreput.htm)
December 9, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Thanks for the additional info. Fireflies are definitely a plus!
Scott